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640in604
01-04-2005, 05:35 PM
The long awaited new helmet has arrived. After riding with a couple people that had the Arai XD, I thought it was pretty much the coolest helmet I had seen. And after riding 70mph down dirty old I-5, or the coquihalla andgetting my face pelted with small rocks and gravel, I was convinced it may just be the way to go.

After investigating the price, it was apparently going to be too cool for my budget. I saw another guy's http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62769&stc=1

(Gaspipe on advrider.com) picture on a ride report on advrider.com and thought his helmet was pretty cool too. Turns out it was a "Simpson", as in Simpson Racing Products fame. It is basically a DOT and SNELL approved Motocross helmet that can be optionally fitted with a shield.

I tried ordering the flat black one, but decided the less I blended in with thepavementthe better. So I bought the one that matched my red riding jacket. My bike is already the colour of pavement (silver and black), so the riding gear has to stand out a little (or maybe I can get an orange flashing light for the top of my helmet).

http://www.adventurerider.ca/images/helmet/GS3MX001.jpg

Now, the seal of the shield against the helmet is not like the seal on the Arai XD (which looks pretty much water tight). There is some gaps and overlaps,

http://www.adventurerider.ca/images/helmet/GS3MX002.jpg

http://www.adventurerider.ca/images/helmet/GS3MX004.jpg

but for the most part it keep the wind out of your eyes about the same as goggles do.

BUT the HUGE difference is in visibility!! (Keep in mind I have never worn a street helmet) The peripheral vision gain is massive. The blind spot shoulder checks show more than just your shoulder now. The blind spot from riding with goggles is huge, this was the dramatic improvement I noticed right away. I feel safer, and this is how I justified the purchase to SWMBO. After all, my other helmet isn't a year old yet...

The helmet is only available in Matte Black plain, and in various colours in a "Flame" pattern as you can see here.

http://www.adventurerider.ca/images/helmet/GS3MX009.jpg

There is wind noise from the shield and its posts (a little bit of whistling during gusts) but overall I would rate the noise level as about 1/2 of normal helmet and goggles. I went riding this afternoon about 4 PM and it is probably about -5C outside. When stopped at a light my breath barely fogged the inside of the shield, whereas my googles would fog like crazy. The shield issupposed to betreated with an antifog (my goggleshave not). The shield also has posts on it so you use tear-offs if you like!

The shield comes in clear, smoke, amber, and

http://www.speedwaremotorsports.com/images/cara/lg_blue.jpg

"iridium" (too cool).

Weight of the helmet feels about the same as my HJC dirt helmet. Although they are supposed to fit a little larger, I don't really believe it. My Large HJC is probably a little big for me, but a Med would be too small (I think). The guy at simpson said that for sure go for the Medium then, I think the medium fit is pretty good except a little tight on the cheek pieces. I'm going to see if they will be annoying or not, I can always trim the foam on them. The rest of the bucket feels good. The liner is removeable and washable!

Here's some more photos of the operation of the shield.

http://www.adventurerider.ca/images/helmet/GS3MX010.jpg


http://www.adventurerider.ca/images/helmet/GS3MX011.jpg


http://www.adventurerider.ca/images/helmet/GS3MX012.jpg

http://www.adventurerider.ca/images/helmet/GS3MX013.jpg

One gripe I had is that they had forgotten to install one of the visor fasteners!! I will have to pick one up at my local dealer. {edit: I found the fastener in the helmet bag - whoops my bad}!!



Lets get this thing outta the garage and onto the street!!



And what do they cost?

The US prices from the website are $179 for the helmet and $100 for the shield (includes installation). So that's $279 USD.

They had the helmet on sale on their "web-special" for $99 about 3 months ago, so I quoted them that price when I spoke to them on the phone (I was bitching that Canadians can't shop online with their website), so they let me have the helmet for $99. Oh and FYIa replacement shield is only $40 ($70 for iridium).

I hope you find this info useful.

Cheers!

http://www3.telus.net/lakeside/images/ADVRIDERSMALL2.JPG

ktmken
01-04-2005, 05:46 PM
Wow. I like that. Looks Cool.

01-05-2005, 10:54 AM
Top review. I'll probably buy one as the blind spots with goggles on are a pain during street riding and I'm a glasses wearer to boot.

Prospector
02-12-2005, 01:51 PM
I've been looking at the Arai XD on the Web but haven't checked out prices yet. The Simpson looks like a good alternate. Thanks for the research.

I'm new to the dual Sport scene. I've got a 2005 KTM Adventure on the way. Delivery in Mar 2005.

Hooligan
02-12-2005, 06:56 PM
Good choice, great bike.

I think we are 3 here with 640 Adventures...?

:hb:

Willie

Eggman
04-11-2006, 03:43 PM
just want to bump this up, can the removed pics be put back up just for a bit?

Im very interested in this helmet, and would love to see these pics.

04-13-2006, 09:26 AM
Eggman wrote:
just want to bump this up, can the removed pics be put back up just for a bit?

Im very interested in this helmet, and would love to see these pics.



Try this........

http://www.simpsonraceproducts.com/products/product_detail.aspx?cat_id=278&prod_id=4137

sebas650
04-13-2006, 09:38 AM
Nice helmet now were does a guy find one of these to try on? and how much are they?

Eggman
04-13-2006, 02:09 PM
yea thanks for the link, been there many times, I was just looking for a more in-depth look at this lid, hoping for a repost of the pics.

ElChupacabra
04-13-2006, 04:04 PM
Sorry those pics aren't on my website or my computer anymore. Didja see the thread on my Arai XD?

http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/forum27/1451.html

Paul

Hooligan
04-16-2006, 03:37 PM
I got myGS3 from Simpson in CA, they are great to deal with. I think all in all it was around C$300 (in Sumas,WA)

Not an Arai, by no stretch of the imagination butthe visor is way better than goggles on a normal MX helmit.

I love it!:dr:

I will try and post some pics....

:hb:

640in604
05-10-2006, 09:26 AM
Pics Update:

I had lost all of the pics I had for this thread so I took some new ones and edited my original post after several requests to do so...

Helmet Durability update:

I just spent $180 on new shields and tear-offs last August. I have the new amber shield - slightly used last summer, and a new clear shield (never installed), and this iridium one I put on and rode to the carwash and back so far. I have a bunch of tear-offs for this helmet as well. Yes, the shields have a tear-off post. Time to race!

I managed to bust the "horn" on the top back of the helmet on a low branch -phew! while trail riding. So I just took it off, it serves no function.The rubber "roost guard" on the the chin bar starts ripping off from the shield coming down on it pretty quickly. I found that black automotive "Goop" reattached it and has not come loose since. I have also removed the lining, washed it, and replaced iteasily. Overall it is a pretty nice helmet.

kitchencabinet
05-10-2006, 01:04 PM
thanks for the review. i'm interested in this helmet as well. googles don't cut it for me on the road either..

so my XL HJC would be a L Simpson GS3-MX? How hard is it and how long does it take to change shields? What sort of tools?

k.

Eggman
05-10-2006, 07:46 PM
ahh great!! thanks those are perfect pics. thanks for your time putting those up!

ElChupacabra
05-10-2006, 09:03 PM
kitchencabinet wrote:
thanks for the review. i'm interested in this helmet as well. googles don't cut it for me on the road either..

so my XL HJC would be a L Simpson GS3-MX? How hard is it and how long does it take to change shields? What sort of tools?

k.

I agree on the size (according to what the Simpson guy told me). I would find out how many cms the XL HJC is, and how many cms the L Simpson is to be sure. Sorry mine is a Medium or you coiuld just try it on for size.

Changing shields is a quick, simplescrewdriver job.

joker650
05-10-2006, 09:23 PM
kitchencabinet wrote:
thanks for the review. i'm interested in this helmet as well. googles don't cut it for me on the road either..

so my XL HJC would be a L Simpson GS3-MX? How hard is it and how long does it take to change shields? What sort of tools?

k.

Hey ....that fancy shield fits on an HJC just fine!

It's been a long time since I have used a face shield on the ol'Lid...... WOW was it ever nice in the mornings:tup:



I sure hated to have to send it back to Paul:(....It's cold here now!

http://www.dualsportbc.com/photogallery/data/566/16Kawasaki_500_005.jpg (http://www.dualsportbc.com/photogallery/showphoto.php?photo=3086&sort=1&cat=566)

ElChupacabra
05-10-2006, 10:37 PM
Dood! That's the shield from my AraiXD!! And you're right, pretty nice fit.

flippy
05-11-2006, 11:06 PM
Hey ....that fancy shield fits on an HJC just fine!

It's been a long time since I have used a face shield on the ol'Lid...... WOW was it ever nice in the mornings:tup:



I sure hated to have to send it back to Paul:(....It's cold here now!

http://www.dualsportbc.com/photogallery/data/566/16Kawasaki_500_005.jpg (http://www.dualsportbc.com/photogallery/showphoto.php?photo=3086&sort=1&cat=566)


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I have a HJC helemt and would like do the same to mine. Could you describe how you installed the shield? Is the shiedl from the Simpson or the Aria?

ElChupacabra
05-12-2006, 06:36 AM
Flippy, that's my shield from my Arai XD that I left in Joker's shop 2 weeks ago. Joker expertly installed with a piece of black electrical tape (look closely at the photo). :tup:

kitchencabinet
05-12-2006, 06:52 AM
damn. got me too. i was eagerly waiting for installation instructions. lol.

joker650
05-12-2006, 01:02 PM
ElChupacabra wrote:
Flippy, that's my shield from my Arai XD that I left in Joker's shop 2 weeks ago. Joker expertly installed with a piece of black electrical tape (look closely at the photo). :tup:





Paul what is the price of one of those clear/untinted visors?



I have an Idea:ted:



Since I would only use it in bad weather I was thinking about ading an elastic strap like a set of goggles. The fit of that visor to my HJC was awsome.....kinda like it was meant to be:tup:

Scottiedogg
05-12-2006, 10:10 PM
HJC is making a nock-off of the Arai XD, I e-mailed them and this was the reply I got from them...

Dear Sir:

We are in the process of releasing the helmet, but I don't believe it has actually been released yet, so there are no photos available. When the helmet is available, it can be viewed on HJC Europe's website. Thank you.

Sincerely,
HJCA Customer Service Rep


Hmmmm....road trip to Europe anybody ???
Hopefully it will be available to the North American market soon...

Scottie

joker650
05-12-2006, 10:18 PM
Scottiedogg wrote:
HJC is making a nock-off of the Arai XD, I e-mailed them and this was the reply I got from them...

Dear Sir:

We are in the process of releasing the helmet, but I don't believe it has actually been released yet, so there are no photos available. When the helmet is available, it can be viewed on HJC Europe's website. Thank you.

Sincerely,
HJCA Customer Service Rep


Hmmmm....road trip to Europe anybody ???
Hopefully it will be available to the North American market soon...

Scottie


Looks like I'm gunna have to buy a "Padle" for the back of the Dr:tup:

flippy
05-12-2006, 10:54 PM
ElChupacabra wrote:

Flippy, that's my shield from my Arai XD that I left in Joker's shop 2 weeks ago. Joker expertly installed with a piece of black electrical tape (look closely at the photo). :tup:




Damn. Got me.

koots_roots
05-17-2006, 09:55 AM
Airoh S4 helmet looks like an interesting alternative to the Arai XD and/or simpson GS3-MX

http://www.airoh.biz/eng/caschi.asp?id=92

Review of the helmet
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/moto.../airoh-helmets/

anyone seen these before?

Scottiedogg
05-17-2006, 09:23 PM
Hey Koots,

Thanks for the info. I read the review and it was very impressive. I did a search on e-bay and it looks like you can buy a new one for $250 and then another $80 for shipping. Then possibly taxes as it enters Canada.

Check it out:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-2006-AIROH-S4-ROAD-OFF-ROAD-ENDURO-HELMET_W0QQitemZ4639477952QQcategoryZ46161QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Scottie

koots_roots
05-23-2006, 04:10 PM
thx sdogg - sent you a PM

motowest.ca
02-18-2007, 03:29 PM
:hb:You can also try this http://motowest.ca/


Dave

c337b
02-18-2007, 05:26 PM
I bought a Arai XD for road riding and love it. If you can wait, buy them on sale. That is what I did. Spunky's had them on for 40% off.

Scottiedogg
02-18-2007, 05:39 PM
So with 40% off does that make it about $500 then ?

c337b
02-18-2007, 05:54 PM
List - 949.99 + Tax

Paid 569.97 + Tax

flippy
02-18-2007, 06:20 PM
HJC is coming out with one...
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/hjc/cl-xs/

And this is a review of my new helmet that I bought in Japan and had it shipped to Vancouver. Paid just over $400 Canadian for it. I love this helmet...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/shoei/hornet/