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    The Dead Zone Dual Sport Ride
    4th Annual
    Saturday July 1/06
    Only $30.00 Rider



    (collectible) T-Shirts for the (pre-paid) riders on the list below



    Onion Lake BC Spring Camp Km 4.5 on the Lauwissin FSR
    Just 20 km North of Lytton Hwy 12 then 4.5 km of gravel
    Room for your truck and trailer







    This year we have2 primary loops suitable for all levels of riders


    B Loop: Lots of two track and some single track, you will scratch your bike!Intended for DRZ/KLX's; nothing bigger than a DR/XR650 unless your name is Sheldon.



    • This route is for seasoned Dual Sporters only. Single track and hard 4X4 roads. You guys know who you are, if you're not sure what kind of a rider you are do the C loop; you will still get some harder options, I guarantee you will enjoy your ride.



    • Many of us were humbled by the mud track heading up Cornwall last year. Good Times!



    • We intend to have a few "A" splits for the nutters, and perhaps Ted or ??? will guide a few of you through something gnarlly, but my own lack of skillz precludes charting an actual A Loop.

    C Loop: All gravel roads all the time; Ok for the big bikes and riders new to Dual Sport. There will be a few options for those wishing to adventure / challenge themselves.



    • Don't worry if your bike is too big or too small, or if you are inexperienced, old&frail, etc. This is a fun loop and you will have a great day!



    • You will ride roads you have never been on before, you will get lost and turned around then be amazed at where you come out. Don't worry though the entire route is ribboned so you won't be lost for long...



    • You will see lots of wildlifeeer, Wild Horses, Bears, Eagles, and possibly fish. You will be riding lots of range land so you can practice weaving in and out with the Slow Cattle.



    • About 297 kms total with 90 kms of pavement, we have "Bail Outs" so if you've had enough you can take the pavement back to camp.

    EZ and scenic riding (much of the route is over 4000') forDR200s, Beemers, 950s, Elefants, VStromsand KLRs



    Wilderness (primitive) Camping Available at Onion Lake Spring Camp.


    We will be leaving our trucks here, room for your campers and pit toilets


    ****This area is 10 kms from the main "MonkeyWrench" start area****





    Motels available in Lytton (Totem Motel) only 25 Kms away less than 20 min ride.





    Roll charts recommended
    All bikes must be licenced & insured- we will be riding on some pavement. Please keep them quiet around the public / ranchers!
    BBQ at end of the ride is included in your entry fee.




    Lunch stops (your cost) will be charted for Cache Creek / Ashcroft.
    Remember to bring your own tools, flat tire repair kit and water.
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    List of Dead Headz:



    We need to determine how many riders to expect on the Dead Zone this year. We had 59 participants last year, and 15 of them missed the cut-off forshirts.



    It takes a lot of time and up-front money to get these rides organised, and have things ready for us when we arrive. If you could email me (markgray@shaw.ca)with your name ,T-shirt size and bike, I will include you on the expected Dead Headz. We plan to havea T Shirt for this ride, but need at least 25 participants before spending the money. Also we would like to know if you plan on camping at the start (same site as 2005, we are at 4.5km on the Laluweesen FSR).



    We will take your money at the event, but cannot guarantee a t-shirt (or burger) for you under such circumstances. Therefore, we ask that you PLEASE PREPAY, this can easily be accomplished through the DualSport Store.




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    List Updated June 28 / 2006

    1. Mark Gray Bxl * DRZ400 campingpaid
    2. Tom Timmerman B xxl* DRZ400 camping paid
    3. Lars Ohlsson B xl* KLR650 camping paid
    4. Sharon Rambo Cxxl* DR200 campingpaid
    5. Colin Morgan B large* DRZ400camping paid
    6. Lee Johns B xl* KLR650 camping paid
    7. Mike Reynen Blarge* DR650 camping paid
    8. Guy Rodrigue B large* DRZ400 camping paid
    9. Matt Murnaghan B xl* KLR650 camping paid
    10. Mike England B xl* KLR650 camping paid
    11. Neil Hawkings B xxxl* DRZ400 hotelpaid
    12. Ted Blow B large* DRZ400 camping paid
    13. Vince Baxter B xl* xr650hotel paid
    14. Wes Jamison B xl* DRZ400 camping paid
    15. AlfonzHamori C xl* KLR650 hotel paid
    16. Dave Kuz B xl* KLR650 campingpaid
    17. John Wyndham C xl*KLR650 paid
    18. Dan Stinn B large* KLX250 paid
    19. Ian Banbury BC large* KTM950hotel paid
    20. Don Duquemin C med* DL1000 hotelpaid
    21. Alex Banbury BCmed* DRZ400 hotelpaid
    22. Ken Good B xl* xl350 hotelpaid
    23. Bud Coles Clarge* 650GS paid
    24. Dwayne MacLeod B large* KLR650paid
    25. Paul Nicholson B large* DRZ400campingpaid
    26. Andy Fines B large KLR650 campingpaid
    27. Christian L'Hospital B large* XT350 paid
    28. Andy Jackman B xxl xr650
    29. Dick HallB xxl* KLR650camping paid
    30. Scott Mitrenga Blarge* KLR650 paid
    31. Dale Robert B med* DRZ400 paid
    32. John Van Leeuwen B large* DRZ400 paid
    33. Hans Weiss C xl*XT250 camping paid
    34. Dwayne Weiss B xxl* xr650 camping paid
    35. Pam Elliott C med*KLR650 camping paid
    36. Scott Young C large * KTM640 camping paid
    37. Mike Holmquist Bxxxl* xr650r camping paid
    38. Jeff Starkenburg B xl* KTM525 camping paid
    39. Mike PerrierB large
    40. Brent Nixon B xl
    41. Glenn Nixon B large
    42. Kyle Norris B xl*DRZ400 paid
    43. Brian McDougallB/C xxl* HP2 paid
    44. Al FarkasB/C med* KL250 paid
    45. Dave Lock Clarge DRZ400
    46. Shawn Gonos C xl KLX400
    47. Tim Reeve Bmed* xr400 paid
    48. Debbie Baronit C xl*650GS paid
    49. Len Baronit C xxxl* KTM950 paid
    50. David Williams B L or xl KTM640camping
    51. Trevor DumoreB largeWR450 paid
    52. Paul Picco C xl* KLR650 paid
    53. Bill Hamilton B/Clarge* KLR650 paid
    54. Terry BurkeB xxl* KTM950 paid
    55. George Szefer Cxl* DR650 camping paid
    56. Brian Liesemer C large* GS1200 paid
    57. Ed Collett Blarge DRZ400 paid
    58. Victor Sanchez C large KLR650 camping paid
    59. Peter WarmerdamBxl DRZ400
    60. Dave Chow B xl DRZ400
    61. Max Yanke C large KLR650 paid
    62. Rocke KinneardAA xlCRF450x camping

    That'sit forpre-reg... thanks for cooperating & we'll see y'all upthere!
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    Our list of 2006 $pon$or$:


    Holeshot Racing of Langley

    holeshotracing.ca - Aprilia, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM & Suzuki

    S&V Motorcycle World of Surrey

    motorcycleworld.ca - Suzuki

    Western Powersports of Langley

    westernpowersports.com - Yamaha, Triumph & Eton

    Northstar Motosport

    northstarmotosport.com - (non-retail distributor)
    Acerbis,Clarke,CZ, Devol, Gold-Fren, K&S, Maxima, No-Toil, SDG,
    Mitas, etc.





    ebay does not support rides, riders or clubs!


    Please support these local businesses who are supporting us!
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    Warning June 5/06

    I had posted last years route sheets and many of you may have downloaded them.

    DO NOT use them if you plan to ride alone.

    These have some big errors on them and this years route is not exactly the same as last years.



    The new route sheets will be posted 1 week before the ride and available to anyone who has signed up.



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    duall wrote:
    i see most people are riding the b-loop, even with klr's ?????


    The B loop is a challenging route for any dualsport bike, but you will need some off road riding skills, especially with a heavy bike like a KLR or any 650 DS Bike. If I owned a GS or KTM 950 I would consider the B loop, I can assure you that it will be dropped at least twice. No V-stroms or any bike with street type tires

    The C loop has its own challenges, its long, its got a few hazards that will require some of you to find assistance. The C loop has several "Bail Outs" if you have had enough fun and want to get to the pavement.

    If the weather is wet, both route move up a notch the B=A and the C=B. If it rains the entire route becomes a snot bowl, goo everywhere. Ask anyone who was at last years DZ.

    If you are not sure do the C route, or come up a day early on Friday and I will send you down part of the B loop and you can tell me.

    Skidmark any thoughts??????

    TT

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    (If the weather is wet, both route move up a notch the B=A and the C=B. If it rains the entire route becomes a snot bowl, goo everywhere. Ask anyone who was at last years DZ.)



    true, I did the c-loop last year, it was definetly challanging, but a lot of fun.

    we'll see you in a couple weeks


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    dickster wrote:
    If you are fairly confident / competant you should target the B-loop. You can always change your mind. Beware of the nay sayers, last year a few people had almost convinced me not to take my KLR on the B-loop. I ended up listening to the people who encouraged me to try the B-loop even with my warn 50/50 tires and had a blast.

    The 'nay sayers'are the oneswho don't want to admit that they should of bought a KLR instead.

    That being said, I hope I don't have too eat my words. At leastI have some decenttires this year even if we don't get any.

    Cheers
    You've made good points Dick.

    Rather than being 'naysayers', as hosts we want everyone to have a good time & not beat themselves or their bikes up beyond expectations. We all have a different concept of what 'dualsport' means.

    When a rider gets in 'over their head' - whether due to experience / skill / fitness / trail conditions / weather / bald or crappy tires - their safety is suddenly at risk. Such situations also tend to create negative experiences for other riders, and we risk losing that rider to our sport / events alltogether.

    Nevertheless, many of you continue to demonstratewith your KLRs and/or TrailWings whata lousy rider I am.

    Now back to "Dead Zone" discussion:


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    Is there required safety gear needed? Right now I'm new to the sport and just have a helmet, other than that I wear work boots, gloves, carhart pants, etc...

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    Hi & welcome.

    It looks like you're well outfitted; there is no requirement beyond what you've listed, and in fact you will see many others at the event with similar gear.

    Thanks for your question; we look forward to your participation.
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    headdamage wrote:
    Is there required safety gear needed? Right now I'm new to the sport and just have a helmet, other than that I wear work boots, gloves, carhart pants, etc...
    At the very least, I always recommend a pair of MX boots, if you can afford them. We just completed a 1100 km DS rip through some very nasty stuff, and the only injury was a sprained ankle, by the only guy NOT wearing MX boots. Any knee/elbow pads will save you too, even your hockey stuff, or mountian biking stuff. Check out second hand sport stores maybe.Sometimes I even wear my cooperalls girdle under my pants. If you plan on challenging yourself, thenscrape together as much saftey gear as you can. Personally, if im not flying off my bike at some point throughout a ride in the trails, then im not pushing myself. You'll work yourself, but will learn to be a much better rider as a result! Bark busters are your freind!!!!!

    Just my opinion!!!

    Great riding in Lytton, have fun!!!
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    scharfg wrote:
    Hey there, here are a couple of questions from a dual sport newbie...

    1) What time does the ride start on Saturday?
    Check-in at 07:15, Riders Meeting at 07:30, Last Rider Out of Camp by 08:00

    2) Does it start from the Onion Lake Campground?
    "Spring Camp" - 4.5km up Lauwissin / 10km South of main Monkey Wrench area

    3) Where does the route C ride end up (back at the Onion Lake Campground or...)?
    Returns to Camp.

    4) Where is the BBQ?
    Ditto.

    5) Are there approx. times to do route C so we can plan theday?
    The routing intend that you'll be finished your lunch (in Cache Creek) and back in the saddle by 13:00 at the latest.

    6) Is there a rough time to start the BBQ?
    Not really... Not before 16:00.

    7) If the ride starts at the Onion Lake Campground and finishes there for the BBQ and if we camp there the night before can we leave our tents set up or should we pack them up for the ride and then set them up again for Saturday night?
    Historically we have always left camp set-up; without incident.

    Sorry if I missed any of these answers from the poster/discussions.....
    All great questions...

    Take care and I hope to see ya'll there....
    Likewise.
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    Where can one buy a roll chart holder locally (Surrey/Langley)? Do I really need one for this ride?

    Does a GPS unit help at all (since I already have one)?

    It's my firstouting of this kind, so sorry if these are silly questions. Thank you and looking forward to it.







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    No such thing as silly questions... only silly mistakes made by those afraid to ask... I don't have a roll chart and Tom was good enough to have the route sheet available in the 8x11 size, last year.. Put it in my tank bag as was good to go... if you don't havea tank bag, some plastic page covers and tape will work as well...

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    Agent Orange wrote:
    I'm going to be camping up at the Monkey Wrench site , does anyone know if there are outhouses up there or is it a B.Y.O.T. ( bring your own toilet )

    Any snow in the forecastthis year ?



    Yea there are pit toilets on the hill,North of the road and between thestart and the camping area. Not sure if they are going to bring extras. The toilets are typically clean, but that will depend on the number of people they are going to have this year.

    Bring toilet paper, its been my experience that people think this stuff appears on its own.

    Remember water too, there is no drinking water there.

    SNOWdidn't you get enough of that last year

    No snow for this year, we are going to replace it with SUNand DUST:?, bring your bandanna and water.

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    Long Range Weather Report For Lytton Area

    Looks like perfect riding weather



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    The Dead Zone Route Sheets are ready for download now

    Check your Email for a password then follow the links from

    http://www.dualsportbc.com

    The route sheets are formated for legal sized paper so make sure you have that and when you go to print check your print setup.

    If you have specific questions about the route sheets only

    you can email me at tom@dualsportbc.com

    The passwords are only available to on line pre registered riders, check the top of this thread to see if you are paid before asking any questions.


    If you have questions regardingyour status or any other questions not related to the route sheets email markgray@shaw.ca(don't pm him - technical difficulties!)

    Thanks Tom T






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    FYI

    Myself and others will be heading up to Onion Lake Spring Camp area prior to the Dead Zone on Thursday, Got lots of stuff to prepare for the ride. Anyone that wants to join us is welcome.

    Also we are staying Sunday after the Dead Zone, more riding. Also looking for new routes for next year.

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    OK.. just registered.. My first dual sport ride. I hope to ride the dual sport event then win the race the next day. Just kiddin.. I just hope the dual sport doesn't kill my a$$ too much.

    See you this weekend

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    Do you think I need to change my tires on my DRZ400. I have more street tires then dirt. How hard is the A/B course. Anyone that knows me, knows I hate changing tires.

    Dave

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    Gnarly Dave wrote:
    Do you think I need to change my tires on my DRZ400. I have more street tires then dirt. How hard is the A/B course. Anyone that knows me, knows I hate changing tires.

    Dave
    Obviously a trick-question from a member of TeamGrizzly............


    The B route should be generally dry & loose. A decent rider on worn tires or Trailwings should do fine. An average rider with lousy tires (or on a KLR) will find the mud & water crossings challenging but do-able.

    Iwould discourageyou from taking any of the A options with crappy tires (or a KLR).

    Our route is 'dualsport' oriented, and no-where near the challenge of the MonkeyWrench race-course.

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    You want to come over and change my tires?

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    Hey all, I just downloaded the EZ loop and see that the first half of the ride is pretty much the same as last year, which is okay, I'll be able to enjoy the scenery more without the slick mud and rain covered goggles.

    So I'm thinking that since this time I'll pretty much know where I'm going, in the morning that is, that I (we) should have enough time to do a side trip up to the Cornwall Hills Lookout if I (we) shorten our lunch break. I figure it would be a 30-40km loop, about 1-1.5 hours.

    Tim or Mark should probably pipe up here whether they are okay with the idea. I believe the road up is decent, but is the only real way up or down which means that some bikes could be traveling upwhile some could be coming down, potential for a mishap.

    It'll be a hot one this year, so pack plenty of water. Maybe a little skinny dipping is in order. And some ice cream at DQ will surely hit the spot.

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    Gnarly Dave wrote:
    You want to come over and change my tires?

    Dave
    Well if you're going to sweet-talk me like that, I'll be over a little after 9:00.
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    Roaddane wrote:
    So I'm thinking that since this time I'll pretty much know where I'm going, in the morning that is, that I (we) should have enough time to do a side trip up to the Cornwall Hills Lookout if I (we) shorten our lunch break. I figure it would be a 30-40km loop, about 1-1.5 hours.

    Tim or Mark should probably pipe up here whether they are okay with the idea. I believe the road up is decent, but is the only real way up or down which means that some bikes could be traveling upwhile some could be coming down, potential for a mishap.
    Hi Paul.

    We weren't going to send any C riders up Hat Creek to the Cornwall look-out. Even though we are expecting dry conditions, the road is badly rutted out and simply didn't seem suitable; remember that it is a 'dead end' and you will have to return to Hwy 1 rather than venture down Finney.

    If, after lunch and the McLean Loop, you (and a buddy please) want to tack this onto your day, I say 'fill your boots' & have fun!

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    Pre Registration will close on Tuesday, June 27th.


    • If you haven't yet registered or paid, then please do so with Mark or Tom at the campsite Friday night / Saturday morning.


    • Please bring correct change ($30.00).



    • We will have (limited quantities) beer for sale on-site. Bring small bills...


    • If you have time / are so inclined:


      • A decent breakfast can be had at the Lytton Hotel (across from RCMP)

      • Many of us will likely have dinner on Friday at the Jade Garden Restaurant (just North of Lytton on #1)


    • Tom & Mark will be going toLytton / Onion Lake on Thursday morning, and will be unreachable by cell, internet, etc.



    • We look forward to riding with you; this will be a great weekend!

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