GS clone by Mottoguzzi

[klrman]

I think Motoguzzi has their eyes on BMW. Looks very nice actually

[SubMann]

That's pretty GS looking to me. No Telelever on the front though. And of course the jugs are higher up, so you have to fall over farther before you screw up your cylinder heads.

[JetDog]

SubMann wrote:

And of course the jugs are higher up, so you have to fall over farther before you screw up your cylinder heads.

Yeah, about those, *ahem* jugs... where the heck do your knees go?

[skidmark43]

Guzzi has a long history of big traillies / dualsports. The Quota was a fun & well-regarded bike in the 90's.

The engine is a v-twin, not a boxer. Lot's of space for your knees.

Don't get me started on the BMW telelever...

[klrman]

Here's another shot.

It does not look like a beemer to me....its wayyyyyyyyyyy too good looking, and looks to be tougher, and better made than a bmw.

It looks like a sweet bike for sure, and while i have not ever had the desire to own a DS made by bmw, I would give that 1 a serious look if looking for a big, heavy DS bike.

[klrman]

Iwas thinking the exact same thing. Looks tougher, cleaner and better. My guess is that BMW will be getting a little worried right about now. It's amazing that none of the Japanese manufacturers are taking on this market head on. Crotch Rockets are killing their creativity on the DP market.


Below is the link to their 850 too. Not sure what went wrong there with that bike
Maybe Motto Guzzi created the 850 to make the 1200 look good or something.

http://www.vikingair.net/850.jpg

[klrman]

some more pics, and after getting my V-Strom 1000, can honestly say, these bikes may be big and heavy, but dam it, they are so much fun! I ride everywhere with mine and it feels like just like a little toy now. What I really like about the Guzzi is the V-Twin design and easy valve adjusting without shims as well as no oil dripping when you pull the covers off.

I would replace the windscreen with a Givi one though as the Guzzi one looks a little dorky.

http://11109.rapidforum.com/topic=124870616053

[klrman]

Here they are..the Stelvio Specs
Fuel tank capacity is quite a dissappointment at only 18 litres. How far can one
get with a 1151cc engine on 18 litres?

Moto Guzzi Stelvio Technical Data
Engine

Type:Four-stroke V 90 twin

Cooling: Air and oil cooled with independent cooling pump

Capacity: 1,151cc

Bore and stroke: 95 x 81.2 mm

Compression ratio: 11 : 1

Timing diagram:Intake valve opening 36° before upper TDC.
(play 1 mm) Intake valve closing 62° after lower TDC.

Maximum power output: Over 80.8 kW (110 CV) at 7,500 rpm

Max Torque:Over 108 Nm at 6,400 rpm

Fuel supply/ignition:
Multipoint sequential electronic injection, Magneti Marelli IAW 5A phased, alfa-n system; 2 x Ø50 mm throttle bodies with Weber IWP 189 injectors, Lambda probe.

Starter:Electric

Spark plugs: NGK PMR8B (Long Life)

Exhaust system: Stainless steel two-into-one 3-way catalyzed with Lambda probe.

Homologation: Euro 3

Transmission:
Gearbox: 6 speed

Gear ratios:
1st 17/38 = 1 : 2.235
2nd 20/34 = 1 : 1.700
3rd 23/31 = 1 : 1.348
4th 26/29 = 1 : 1.115
5th 31/30 = 1 : 0.968
6th 29/25 = 1 : 0.862

Lubrication:Oil bath

Primary drive: Helicoidal gears, ratio 27/34 = 1 : 1.259

Final drive:
C.A.R.C. reactive drive; double universal joint with floating bevel gear, ratio 12/44 = 1 : 3,666

Clutch:Single plate with integrated flexible couplings

Frame:High tensile steel tubular twin cradle

Wheelbase:1.550 mm

Rake:125 mm

Steering rake:27°

Steering angle:34°

Front suspension
Upside down Ø 50 mm fully adjustable forks (spring preload and hydraulic for rebound and compression) with mounting for radial calipers.

Front wheel travel:170 mm

Rear suspension:
Progressive single swingarm, fully adjustable monoshock with separate gas reservoir (spring preload and hydraulic for rebound and compression).

Rear wheel travel:155 mm

Front brakes:
Twin floating 320 mm stainless steel wave discs, radial calipers with 4 opposed pistons.

Rear brakes
Single 282 mm fixed stainless steel disc, floating caliper with 2 parallel pistons.

Wheels:Spoked aluminum alloy (tubeless)

Front wheel:2.50" x 19"
Rear wheel 5.50” x 17”
Front tire 110/90 ZR19”
Rear tire 180/55 ZR17”
Electrics
Voltage 12 V
Battery 12 V – 18 Ah
Alternator 12 V – 550 W
Dimensions
Length 2250 mm
Width 1025 mm
Height 1475 mm
Saddle height 840 mm
Minimum road clearance 210 mm
Dry weight 214 kg
Fuel tank capacity 18 liters
Reserve 3.3 liters

[ZED]

OK, repeat after me.

I don't need another bike (right now).
I don't need another bike (right now).


:drool:!

[ZED]

I like how it uses a standard style of dirt bar. That way you can choose the Renthal to suite your particular taste.

Can't seem to find any pictures with factory hard bags though. That would be sweet. They'll probably offer matching red givi's.

[klrman]

ZED wrote:

OK, repeat after me.

I don't need another bike (right now).
I don't need another bike (right now).


:drool:!

I don't need another bike (right now)....but..I WANT ONE

[sagot]

skidmark43 wrote:

Guzzi has a long history of big traillies / dualsports. The Quota was a fun & well-regarded bike in the 90's.

The engine is a v-twin, not a boxer. Lot's of space for your knees.

Don't get me started on the BMW telelever...

Tell us about the telelever Uncle Skid!

[klrman]

I did not want to be the first to ask, but yes, tell us about the Telever?:?

[klrman]

Anyone get a Stelvio yet? I'm getting itchy to buy one soon and was wondering if we have anyone here that can give us their ride report.

[joker650]

I was at River City Cycle today here in the 'Loops. That bike is under $7000

[klrman]

You mean under "17,000" If it was under $7,000 I'd order ten!
Here is the newer model called the Stelvio NTX squarely aimed at the GS Adventurer.

BTW, how did the Red Stelvio look in real today, did you like it?

[joker650]

You mean under "17,000" If it was under $7,000 I'd order ten!
Here is the newer model called the Stelvio NTX squarely aimed at the GS Adventurer.

BTW, how did the Red Stelvio look in real today, did you like it?

U shure??!?!!?!

I swear the tag was under 7 ...hollie crap I must be BLIND!

I was thinking WOW..i shopuld buy one.

[klrman]

Yep, it's $16,900

[Buck]

17 thou makes sense, pricing it just under a bare bones BMW GS1200for 17,500.

[joker650]

klrman wrote:

Yep, it's $16,900

Musta been sompthn in front of the 1 in the tag

[klrman]

I was just on the ADV forum and it looks like Moto Guzzi has problems. The plant has been shut down and will be shut down for a few months and who knows after that. Main reason they say is there is hardly any demand at the moment for big cc bikes, but from what I read they could have more problems.

[farmerger]

I just finished the BCBTR4. There was a fellow there riding a Stelvio. He bought it this year. He's selling it and buying a GS as soon as the wife will let him. Said it vibrated, was not as stiff/robust as the GS and on cooler mornings at first only ran on one of those two jugs. ALso was worried about some rumor re a recall on valves/heads.

[klrman]

The 2008 did have those problems and were recalled. The 2009 models have been resolved by Aprillia with a new camshaft, new engine management system, new airbox and much better mpg and power back in the midrange. The 2008 problems with the rocker arms was only a few batches so your friend had bad luck to get that batch.

It's always a gamble to buy a model in it's first year, that was why I was waiting it out until the bugs got ironed out.

From most of the reports I read, it shifts way better than the GS, handles better, more comfortable etc, but the gas tank is too small and in the dirt the GS woulds be better. Remember, I ride a Vstrom-1000 in the dirt and have no problems and I'm not going to start doing jumps on it or ride it like a KLR

[klrman]

I think I like the black one the best!